Overview
In 1979, the Big East Conference was formed, with Georgetown, Providence, St. John’s, and Syracuse joining up with Boston College, Connecticut, Holy Cross, and Seton Hall to form a basketball-minded conference.
1991 saw the rise of the Big East, for football, with Miami (FL), Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Temple, Virginia Tech, and West Virginia joining up with Syracuse and Boston College, eight members.
The conference landscapes changed in 2004, with Connecticut playing football and Miami (FL) and Virginia Tech leaving for the ACC, leaving the conference with seven members.
2005 was a sea change year for the Big East, with Louisville, South Florida, and Cincinnati joined the conference, Boston College left for the ACC, and Temple was asked to leave the conference, bringing the conference back to eight teams. The Big East seemed, for once, to be a stable conference.
With the 2010 realignment occurring, the Big East decided to jump in and benefit, hoping to add the Dallas-Fort Worth media market by inviting TCU to join (bringing the total to nine teams). Since that time, everything has been in free fall for the Big East, TCU changed its mind and decided to join the Big 12 (decreasing the proposed total back to eight) and Syracuse and Pittsburgh announced intentions to depart, having been accepted into the ACC (decreasing proposed total to six). Today, West Virginia announced intentions to leave the Big East and join the Big 12 (decreasing proposed total to five).
The Take
College football enthusiasts and conference realignment fans alike have wondered when the collapse of the Big East would occur. It occurs with West Virginia leaving the Big East. The Big East is now in talks to merge with Conference USA and Mountain West to create a super conference of 28 to 32 teams in hopes of maintaining a BCS bid.
Face it, Big East fans, your conference is done; toast. It will continue to be a viable basketball conference, because even with the aforementioned subtractions, the basketball conference can survive, due to the pure depth of the league. Boise State expressed concerns about conference stability, Navy, Air Force, Houston, SMU, Temple, and Villanova were also mentioned. Outside of bringing in more rivalries, only the Pennsylvania schools and Navy are remotely located in the confines of the Big East. Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Rutgers and South Florida are now left scrambling .
Adding more schools will not ensure a BCS bid. ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC will continue to have BCS bowl bids. There is no reason to believe those conferences can’t continue to supply at least five of the 10 BCS bowl bids, with half of the bids being at large teams. Further, there is no reason to add an additional BCS conference – other potential conferences, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and WAC do not warrant BCS level attention. A combined Conference USA/Mountain West/Big East wouldn’t, either.
The Plan?
The UNLV athletic director, Jim Livengood, envisioned a plan of four divisions of seven teams each, with a playoff then a conference championship to arrive at an automatic qualifier. Having more teams than two BCS conferences combined shouldn’t give you an automatic BCS bid, but alright, whatever, we’ll go with what he says as a basis for discussion. First, let’s figure out which teams Mr. Livengood means, when he says 28:
Mountain West (10): Air Force, Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State*, Hawaii*, Nevada*, New Mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, and Wyoming.
Conference USA (12): East Carolina, Houston, Marshall, Memphis, Rice, SMU, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UCF, and UTEP.
Big East (5): Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Rutgers, and South Florida.
* Currently WAC members.
So that’s 27, assuming no one departs. The other team to bring it to 28? My guess is Navy. Some WAC members are also being mentioned for a 32 team proposal, that is Louisiana Tech, San Jose State, and Utah State. Temple appears to be the other team, in a 32 team proposal.
Assuming there are 28 teams, like Mr. Livengood says, I venture a Big East/Conference USA/Mountain West proposal looks like this* (with the distance in miles between divisional opponents listed):
Far West | Boise State | Fresno State | Hawaii | Nevada | New Mexico | San Diego State | UNLV |
Boise State |
— |
505 |
2836 |
337 |
780 |
748 |
522 |
Fresno State |
505 |
— |
2520 |
188 |
745 |
316 |
269 |
Hawaii |
2836 |
2520 |
— |
2569 |
3231 |
2617 |
2768 |
Nevada |
337 |
188 |
2569 |
— |
788 |
490 |
355 |
New Mexico |
780 |
745 |
3231 |
788 |
— |
623 |
477 |
San Diego State |
748 |
316 |
2617 |
490 |
623 |
— |
257 |
UNLV |
522 |
269 |
2768 |
355 |
477 |
257 |
— |
Mountain West | Air Force | Colorado State | Houston | Rice | SMU | UTEP | Wyoming |
Air Force |
— |
109 |
838 |
836 |
620 |
507 |
164 |
Colorado State |
109 |
— |
929 |
928 |
706 |
611 |
56 |
Houston |
838 |
929 |
— |
4 |
231 |
678 |
983 |
Rice |
836 |
928 |
4 |
— |
230 |
675 |
982 |
SMU |
620 |
706 |
231 |
230 |
— |
574 |
759 |
UTEP |
507 |
611 |
678 |
675 |
574 |
— |
660 |
Wyoming |
164 |
56 |
983 |
982 |
759 |
660 |
— |
Conference USA | Memphis | Southern Miss | South Florida | Tulane | Tulsa | UAB | UCF |
Memphis |
— |
264 |
660 |
356 |
343 |
211 |
684 |
Southern Miss |
264 |
— |
471 |
105 |
505 |
209 |
523 |
South Florida |
660 |
471 |
— |
479 |
967 |
460 |
91 |
Tulane |
356 |
105 |
479 |
— |
546 |
311 |
544 |
Tulsa |
343 |
505 |
967 |
546 |
— |
548 |
1005 |
UAB |
211 |
209 |
460 |
311 |
548 |
— |
476 |
UCF |
684 |
523 |
91 |
544 |
1005 |
476 |
— |
Big East | Cincinnati | Connecticut | East Carolina | Louisville | Marshall | Navy | Rutgers |
Cincinnati |
— |
652 |
463 |
93 |
123 |
431 |
543 |
Connecticut |
652 |
— |
496 |
738 |
568 |
281 |
129 |
East Carolina |
463 |
496 |
— |
498 |
341 |
238 |
374 |
Louisville |
93 |
738 |
498 |
— |
182 |
503 |
625 |
Marshall |
123 |
568 |
341 |
182 |
— |
322 |
449 |
Navy |
431 |
281 |
238 |
503 |
322 |
— |
151 |
Rutgers |
543 |
129 |
374 |
625 |
449 |
151 |
— |
* I’m using each of the conference names as a division and Far West for the remaining division.
Far West Rivalries
Boise State/Fresno State – Battle for the Milk Can
Boise State/Hawaii
Boise State/Nevada
Fresno State/Hawaii – Golden Screwdriver
Nevada/UNLV – Battle for Nevada
Mountain West Rivalries
Air Force/Colorado State – Ram/Falcon Trophy
Colorado State/Wyoming – Border War
Houston/Rice – Bayou Bucket
Rice/SMU – Battle for the Mayor’s Cup
Mountain West Rivalries
Memphis/UAB – Battle for the Bones
Memphis/Southern Miss – Black and Blue Bowl
Southern Miss/Tulane – Battle for the Bell
South Florida/UCF – The War on I-4
Big East Rivalries
Cincinnati/Louisville – Battle for the Keg of Nails
Navy/Rutgers
The setup would also lend itself to bringing back in Rice, SMU, Tulsa, and UTEP, after those teams left the WAC (and Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, and Nevada) in 2005.
Average wins for division, by year
Far West |
2005 |
2006 |
2007 |
2008 |
2009 |
2010 |
Average |
Boise State |
9 |
13 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
11.67 |
Fresno State |
8 |
4 |
9 |
7 |
8 |
8 |
7.33 |
Hawaii |
5 |
11 |
12 |
7 |
6 |
10 |
8.50 |
Nevada |
9 |
8 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
13 |
8.50 |
New Mexico |
6 |
6 |
9 |
4 |
1 |
1 |
4.50 |
San Diego State |
5 |
3 |
4 |
2 |
4 |
9 |
4.50 |
UNLV |
2 |
2 |
2 |
5 |
5 |
2 |
3.00 |
By year |
6.29 |
6.71 |
7.43 |
6.29 |
6.57 |
7.86 |
Mountain West |
2005 |
2006 |
2007 |
2008 |
2009 |
2010 |
Average |
Air Force |
4 |
4 |
9 |
8 |
8 |
9 |
7.00 |
Colorado State |
6 |
4 |
3 |
7 |
3 |
3 |
4.33 |
Houston |
6 |
10 |
8 |
8 |
10 |
5 |
7.83 |
Rice |
1 |
7 |
3 |
10 |
2 |
4 |
4.50 |
SMU |
5 |
6 |
1 |
1 |
8 |
7 |
4.67 |
UTEP |
8 |
5 |
4 |
5 |
4 |
6 |
5.33 |
Wyoming |
4 |
6 |
5 |
4 |
7 |
3 |
4.83 |
By year |
4.86 |
6.00 |
4.71 |
6.14 |
6.00 |
5.29 |
Conference USA |
2005 |
2006 |
2007 |
2008 |
2009 |
2010 |
Average |
Memphis |
7 |
2 |
7 |
6 |
2 |
1 |
4.17 |
Southern Miss |
7 |
9 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
8 |
7.50 |
South Florida |
6 |
9 |
9 |
8 |
8 |
8 |
8.00 |
Tulane |
2 |
4 |
4 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
3.17 |
Tulsa |
9 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
5 |
10 |
8.83 |
UAB |
5 |
3 |
2 |
4 |
5 |
4 |
3.83 |
UCF |
8 |
4 |
10 |
4 |
8 |
11 |
7.50 |
By year |
6.29 |
5.57 |
7.00 |
6.00 |
5.43 |
6.57 |
Big East |
2005 |
2006 |
2007 |
2008 |
2009 |
2010 |
Average |
Cincinnati |
4 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
4 |
8.17 |
Connecticut |
5 |
4 |
9 |
8 |
8 |
8 |
7.00 |
East Carolina |
5 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
9 |
6 |
7.33 |
Louisville |
9 |
12 |
6 |
5 |
4 |
7 |
7.17 |
Marshall |
4 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
7 |
5 |
4.67 |
Navy |
8 |
9 |
8 |
8 |
10 |
9 |
8.67 |
Rutgers |
7 |
11 |
8 |
8 |
9 |
4 |
7.83 |
By year |
6.00 |
8.00 |
7.43 |
7.57 |
8.43 |
6.14 |
Rank of Teams by Average Wins
Rank |
Team |
Division |
Average Wins |
1 |
Boise State | Far West |
11.67 |
2 |
Tulsa | Conference USA |
8.83 |
3 |
Navy | Big East |
8.67 |
4 |
Hawaii | Far West |
8.50 |
5 |
Nevada | Far West |
8.50 |
6 |
Cincinnati | Big East |
8.17 |
7 |
South Florida | Conference USA |
8.00 |
8 |
Houston | Mountain West |
7.83 |
9 |
Rutgers | Big East |
7.83 |
10 |
Southern Miss | Conference USA |
7.50 |
11 |
UCF | Conference USA |
7.50 |
12 |
Fresno State | Far West |
7.33 |
13 |
East Carolina | Big East |
7.33 |
14 |
Louisville | Big East |
7.17 |
15 |
Air Force | Mountain West |
7.00 |
16 |
Connecticut | Big East |
7.00 |
17 |
UTEP | Mountain West |
5.33 |
18 |
Wyoming | Mountain West |
4.83 |
19 |
SMU | Mountain West |
4.67 |
20 |
Marshall | Big East |
4.67 |
21 |
New Mexico | Far West |
4.50 |
22 |
San Diego State | Far West |
4.50 |
23 |
Rice | Mountain West |
4.50 |
24 |
Colorado State | Mountain West |
4.33 |
25 |
Memphis | Conference USA |
4.17 |
26 |
UAB | Conference USA |
3.83 |
27 |
Tulane | Conference USA |
3.17 |
28 |
UNLV | Far West |
3.00 |
Average Wins |
6.44 |
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Far West |
13.14285714 |
||
Mountain West |
17.71428571 |
||
Conference USA |
15.42857143 |
||
Big East |
11.57142857 |
Overall, the divisions would be relatively equal, with the Big East edging out the Far West for the most competitive. The Mountain West and Conference USA have high ranking teams, but are brought down by at least two lower ranked teams.
Summary
A combination of three conferences into one probably doesn’t make the most sense, especially from a logistically and travel standpoint, let alone from an BCS automatic bid standpoint. But it is workable, and would create competitive divisions, preserve rivalries, and set up a unique playoff style format for a conference champion. Ultimately, this conference set up will likely lead to a conference split into two conferences, similar to the Mountain West/WAC split in 1999.
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